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		<title>By: Sultan</title>
		<link>http://www.qqpewpew.com/2009/09/15/step-into-the-arena/comment-page-1/#comment-3687</link>
		<dc:creator>Sultan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same, i only play my dk for pvp or for occasional tanking.   Although i heard DW DPS is pretty nice now, with ToT (?).  Saw a DK on spinebreaker, had a quick convo with him, he was pretty much best in slot, gear was fantastic, DW DPS, but talking about some crazy numbers...I was a bit skeptical, when he starts talking 10-12k dps on DW PVE DK DPS....then again I&#039;ve been gone for a while...so I&#039;m not really sure.  When i played last mages / locks were hitting 7-8k so its possible, i suppose.  Can anyone clarify / verify what DK PVE DPS is like nowadays? Some actual proof would nice, not just word of mouth, but w/e works. Thx! ^.^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same, i only play my dk for pvp or for occasional tanking.   Although i heard DW DPS is pretty nice now, with ToT (?).  Saw a DK on spinebreaker, had a quick convo with him, he was pretty much best in slot, gear was fantastic, DW DPS, but talking about some crazy numbers&#8230;I was a bit skeptical, when he starts talking 10-12k dps on DW PVE DK DPS&#8230;.then again I&#8217;ve been gone for a while&#8230;so I&#8217;m not really sure.  When i played last mages / locks were hitting 7-8k so its possible, i suppose.  Can anyone clarify / verify what DK PVE DPS is like nowadays? Some actual proof would nice, not just word of mouth, but w/e works. Thx! ^.^</p>
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		<title>By: Drotara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drotara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right now Arcane Mages are pretty crazy. I am not sure about DK PvE DPS though. Mine either tanks or PvPs so I can&#039;t make an accurate assessment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right now Arcane Mages are pretty crazy. I am not sure about DK PvE DPS though. Mine either tanks or PvPs so I can&#8217;t make an accurate assessment.</p>
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		<title>By: Sultan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sultan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DKs....OP? Uhhh....no, they aren&#039;t. Im always seeing people talk about how OP DKs are.  I destroy them on my hunter, and on my priest. 90% of the time, i never, ever worry about the DK in anything i do, pve or pvp. They might be strong, but they&#039;ve recieved so many nerfs, and balance checks, they aren&#039;t the same class they were upon WotLK release.  Seriously, people still think they&#039;re OP? I guess you&#039;re welcome to your opinion.....but still....

Who knows, maybe I&#039;m wrong. Ive taken a couple month break from WoW. But since I&#039;ve been back I&#039;ve seen nothing that makes me think they&#039;re OP. Strong, yes. But that doesn&#039;t make them OP. IDK about PvE, but PvP side the paladin continues to remain OP as hell. Prot pally destroying 3 people at once. Add resto druids to that list. Whee. HoT HoT HoT HoT HoT HoT /laugh /dance then begin teabagging.

&quot;Mages and hunters seem to struggle&quot; ... Really? Mages are struggling PvE Side now? Before they were among the highest dps dealing class, up there with locks. 

Idk man, your info seems a bit skewed. Or maybe I&#039;ve been gone too long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DKs&#8230;.OP? Uhhh&#8230;.no, they aren&#8217;t. Im always seeing people talk about how OP DKs are.  I destroy them on my hunter, and on my priest. 90% of the time, i never, ever worry about the DK in anything i do, pve or pvp. They might be strong, but they&#8217;ve recieved so many nerfs, and balance checks, they aren&#8217;t the same class they were upon WotLK release.  Seriously, people still think they&#8217;re OP? I guess you&#8217;re welcome to your opinion&#8230;..but still&#8230;.</p>
<p>Who knows, maybe I&#8217;m wrong. Ive taken a couple month break from WoW. But since I&#8217;ve been back I&#8217;ve seen nothing that makes me think they&#8217;re OP. Strong, yes. But that doesn&#8217;t make them OP. IDK about PvE, but PvP side the paladin continues to remain OP as hell. Prot pally destroying 3 people at once. Add resto druids to that list. Whee. HoT HoT HoT HoT HoT HoT /laugh /dance then begin teabagging.</p>
<p>&#8220;Mages and hunters seem to struggle&#8221; &#8230; Really? Mages are struggling PvE Side now? Before they were among the highest dps dealing class, up there with locks. </p>
<p>Idk man, your info seems a bit skewed. Or maybe I&#8217;ve been gone too long.</p>
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		<title>By: Shmii</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shmii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 00:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have more health in my PvE gear than I do PvP gear.

I&#039;m kind of stuck with being SV or MM and hiding while I try to burn down healers in Wintergrasp or the occasional AV and IoC. I do enjoy me some 10k bursts on unprotected and unsuspecting priests though. I -don&#039;t- however enjoy the fact that I&#039;m generally in viper more than I am dragonhawk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have more health in my PvE gear than I do PvP gear.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m kind of stuck with being SV or MM and hiding while I try to burn down healers in Wintergrasp or the occasional AV and IoC. I do enjoy me some 10k bursts on unprotected and unsuspecting priests though. I -don&#8217;t- however enjoy the fact that I&#8217;m generally in viper more than I am dragonhawk.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhodopsin</title>
		<link>http://www.qqpewpew.com/2009/09/15/step-into-the-arena/comment-page-1/#comment-3544</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhodopsin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m kinda upset about the BW nerf screwing up my previous 2&#039;s/3&#039;s comps, but I did some games as Marks/Feral and went from 0-1805 in one night.  Just as a sort of background, my previous highest personal rating in any bracket was 1727 from when readiness/bestial wrath worked.  The feral had literally 100 resil and I was about like 575ish.  After being so frustrated with arenas for so long I&#039;m actually enjoying them (barring the ever-present prot/holy).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m kinda upset about the BW nerf screwing up my previous 2&#8217;s/3&#8217;s comps, but I did some games as Marks/Feral and went from 0-1805 in one night.  Just as a sort of background, my previous highest personal rating in any bracket was 1727 from when readiness/bestial wrath worked.  The feral had literally 100 resil and I was about like 575ish.  After being so frustrated with arenas for so long I&#8217;m actually enjoying them (barring the ever-present prot/holy).</p>
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		<title>By: Dmok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dmok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to be honest, I miss the days of months between class changes.  It actually made you excited to see the list of changes to your class, and you wouldn&#039;t have to regear or regem every 2-3 weeks.  

I am of the opinion that the developers should continue with their current community information sharing .... just scale back on the number of minor patches just to try and make everything &quot;perfect&quot;.  It never will be, someone will always be OP more than someone else.  Let it play out for a couple months and then make an informed decision on how to balance everything in 1 shot.

I mean, it&#039;s the same thing they do now, but with only like 3 weeks to see how it plays out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to be honest, I miss the days of months between class changes.  It actually made you excited to see the list of changes to your class, and you wouldn&#8217;t have to regear or regem every 2-3 weeks.  </p>
<p>I am of the opinion that the developers should continue with their current community information sharing &#8230;. just scale back on the number of minor patches just to try and make everything &#8220;perfect&#8221;.  It never will be, someone will always be OP more than someone else.  Let it play out for a couple months and then make an informed decision on how to balance everything in 1 shot.</p>
<p>I mean, it&#8217;s the same thing they do now, but with only like 3 weeks to see how it plays out.</p>
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		<title>By: shanx</title>
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		<dc:creator>shanx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kargos

I think the interaction between Blizz and the communiy is alot more present now than it was 3 years ago. Faster patches, fixes and responses atleast.

About the BM boost, I dont think they&#039;re too proud/happy about it either. But given they&#039;ve allready started on Catalysm and any change to any class today is going to be a waste of time come expansion, I bet they spend the devtime on &quot;something else&quot; rather.

It might be the harsh truth to it all as dev. time means money and reduction on time on other things and I see (as pointed out by others aswell) the BM buff as a PVE buff. Both MM and SV in PVE is &quot;okay&quot; so it&#039;s like Blizzard would all the sudden make Frost mages viable in PVE again - noone really expects that to happen as there are 2 viable trees allready.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kargos</p>
<p>I think the interaction between Blizz and the communiy is alot more present now than it was 3 years ago. Faster patches, fixes and responses atleast.</p>
<p>About the BM boost, I dont think they&#8217;re too proud/happy about it either. But given they&#8217;ve allready started on Catalysm and any change to any class today is going to be a waste of time come expansion, I bet they spend the devtime on &#8220;something else&#8221; rather.</p>
<p>It might be the harsh truth to it all as dev. time means money and reduction on time on other things and I see (as pointed out by others aswell) the BM buff as a PVE buff. Both MM and SV in PVE is &#8220;okay&#8221; so it&#8217;s like Blizzard would all the sudden make Frost mages viable in PVE again &#8211; noone really expects that to happen as there are 2 viable trees allready.</p>
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		<title>By: shanx</title>
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		<dc:creator>shanx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 08:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, totally agree on the gimmick part. It&#039;s the same as in Ulduar with loads of damagemodifiers and other elements that strongly affect your damage. The DK&#039;s that beat me are allways Blood (heartstrike just makes them skyrocket as soon as there are more than one mob in the vicinity).

On fights like Iron Council which pretty much is a orgasm for any hunter (we do it medium - small - large for the stability kill instead of the little more risky small - medium - large) I allways beat the blood though, personal highest damage on them is 7.6.

Ulduar had alot of penalties on hunters - maybe thats why i didnt like most fights. Ranging from untrackable (someone made the math on MM and untrackable with the &quot;normal&quot; arpen build and came out with a 7.5% penalty if you cant track your opponent with imp track), more common and spread penalties like sunder armor or eq. unable to be affecting all targets which ofc is another thing to the more devastating fights like Vezax where you end up sitting on double penalties (0 mana regen and attackspeed lowered). In short I wont miss Ulduar.

ToC looks way better so far, I can see that - maybe I just need to put on the gameface again now that T8 is finally over :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, totally agree on the gimmick part. It&#8217;s the same as in Ulduar with loads of damagemodifiers and other elements that strongly affect your damage. The DK&#8217;s that beat me are allways Blood (heartstrike just makes them skyrocket as soon as there are more than one mob in the vicinity).</p>
<p>On fights like Iron Council which pretty much is a orgasm for any hunter (we do it medium &#8211; small &#8211; large for the stability kill instead of the little more risky small &#8211; medium &#8211; large) I allways beat the blood though, personal highest damage on them is 7.6.</p>
<p>Ulduar had alot of penalties on hunters &#8211; maybe thats why i didnt like most fights. Ranging from untrackable (someone made the math on MM and untrackable with the &#8220;normal&#8221; arpen build and came out with a 7.5% penalty if you cant track your opponent with imp track), more common and spread penalties like sunder armor or eq. unable to be affecting all targets which ofc is another thing to the more devastating fights like Vezax where you end up sitting on double penalties (0 mana regen and attackspeed lowered). In short I wont miss Ulduar.</p>
<p>ToC looks way better so far, I can see that &#8211; maybe I just need to put on the gameface again now that T8 is finally over :)</p>
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		<title>By: Kargos of Uldum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kargos of Uldum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 08:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Shanx:

It is a very boring increase from Blizzard, especially when they state that talent trees aren&#039;t fun enough. What I dislike is the fact that they might just be waiting for the next expansion to &quot;fix&quot; the hunter class, not to mention it&#039;s getting a huge gutting.

It would help a lot more if there was very visible interaction between Blizzard and the player community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Shanx:</p>
<p>It is a very boring increase from Blizzard, especially when they state that talent trees aren&#8217;t fun enough. What I dislike is the fact that they might just be waiting for the next expansion to &#8220;fix&#8221; the hunter class, not to mention it&#8217;s getting a huge gutting.</p>
<p>It would help a lot more if there was very visible interaction between Blizzard and the player community.</p>
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		<title>By: Drotara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drotara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 23:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I have only puged it so far but what kind of numbers are your DKs putting out? I haven&#039;t seen them putting up the monster numbers you are describing. But from my experience as well, its a lot about situational awareness. For example, I did VoA25 today and did 7.1k DPS because no fire was put under my feet the entire fight. I never moved and did my thing.

But most of ToC involves some type of adjustment. Infernals, Sisters, Snobolds, Icehowl charges, avoiding/grabbing colored orbs, etc. None of these fights are Patchwerk. Always factor in how well you do everything else required of you.

But that being said, I still usually beat the DKs. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I have only puged it so far but what kind of numbers are your DKs putting out? I haven&#8217;t seen them putting up the monster numbers you are describing. But from my experience as well, its a lot about situational awareness. For example, I did VoA25 today and did 7.1k DPS because no fire was put under my feet the entire fight. I never moved and did my thing.</p>
<p>But most of ToC involves some type of adjustment. Infernals, Sisters, Snobolds, Icehowl charges, avoiding/grabbing colored orbs, etc. None of these fights are Patchwerk. Always factor in how well you do everything else required of you.</p>
<p>But that being said, I still usually beat the DKs. :)</p>
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