So I logged on to the PTR this morning after being unable to sleep. I figure I would test some BM action and check out some other pet talents. Here is what you will find on your tanking pets:
Right now Marksmanship is busted as the new bleed effect only ticks for 1 damage so it’s hard to gauge how that is going to work. But without regemming, during one DPS cycle I managed to do 3600 DPS on the raid dummy without any buffs with Khagan contributing more of that than I did! Regemming for AP would provide even a larger contribution to him. I didn’t get the chance to get the Spirit Beast to 80 yet, but it’s looking promising.
I only used Serpent Sting, Arcane Shot, and Steady Shot in my rotation and I was unglyphed for BM as well. So that’s saying something. The 3600 DPS was an outlier, but it still consistently pulled in 3k on the dummy. And Survival wasn’t far behind either.
Another option to be considering is the new Furious Howl. 300 AP that last 20 seconds with a 30 second cooldown is pretty appealing as well. Depending how that all shapes up, maybe the Ghost Wolf will finally come out of the stables!
Now the post title is kinda of out there but I thought it was worth pointing out that my gorilla had 18.7k HP when I was BM. And that was without Endurance training! Need a tank for an instance? The pets are looking more and more viable. :)
More to come! Especially once we get into Ulduar! Thoughts, comments, etc. Post!
These are documented but nice
Thunderstomp * (Gorilla) has been removed as a pet skill and replaced by Pummel – Pummel the target, interrupting spellcasting and preventing any spell in that school from being cast for 4 sec. (20 Focus, 5 yd range, Instant, 10 sec cooldown)
* Thunderstomp is now a pet talent available to any Tenacity pet. Now your bears, crocs or ESPECIALLY CRABS can join in the AE tanking fun.
* Savage Rend (Raptor) now temporarily boost the raptor’s damage by 10% for 30 seconds.
* Furious Howl (Wolf) now only affects the wolf and its master, duration increased from 10 to 20 seconds.
Sorry *undocumented
@Stridur The Raptor change is very interesting too. I am curious what that will do for them. And it is pretty awesome gorillas have their own Pummel. :D
After some short tests I got these results:
My gorilla got 26.8k HP unbuffed with BM spec (!) (with me in pvp gear)
He still thunderstomps AND Pummels (even without Thunderstomp as talent)
He self heals for 4.5k with 1/2 in Silverback and 4.9k with 2/2 (?) every 3.5 secs
Furious Howl from my wolf DOES NOT stack with Blessing of Might x(
I bet Crocodile (or Bear) will be the best AoE pet from now on, Luckily I got the green Ooze in stable still :D http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=29034
Stomp + Bad Attitude FTW!
Obviously some bugs with the Silverback, but I guess they straighten it out…
But, will Furious Howl be applicable in Raids. That has been the downer with this buff the entire time. There are so many pets whose special abilities cannot be used in 25 man Content.
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@Jakeryan Apparently Furious Howl stacks with all other raid buffs now since its Hunter/Hunter pet only.
@Stridur Will do, gotta catch up on my e-mail. I’ll be in touch.
@ Jakeryan
Well, as i mentioned, Furious Howl DOES NOT stack with Blessing of Might or the AP shout from warriors. So when it comes to raiding.. the answer is kinda obvious isnt it?
Anyhows, I tested my Crocodile pet on the fast-spawning undeads in Icecrown just now. I managed to pull around 15-17 mobs before I got dazed and dismounted. So my pet takes over the aggro, and i click Bestial Wrath, Mend Pet and grab some popcorn. Some 50 secs later, all mobs are dead, and Recount is showing 4.5k DPS for my pet. It was as high as 5.3k for a few secs even… This was with me in pvp gear for max hp, so i didnt have very high AP
All in all, I find this to be very respectable from a tenacity pet :D
I’m taming a crocodile. I want one :)
@Sillie GC said that they were making Furious Howl stack now, similar to Call of the Wild. Haven’t tested to see if it works yet.
@ Drotora
I’ve been told it’s affirmative, and that Howl+Might/Shout stacks. Which is awesome!
Is the 30 second CD the top end, or is that with the reduction from Longevity?
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That’s the top end. I had Longevity and it was like 28 or something.
I tested with myself beeing buffed with might, and my wolf without. I didnt get Furious Howl, but my wolf did…. so, either GC is lying, or its not been fixed yet.
With the piercing shots bleed only ticking for 1 damage, did the test dummy by chance only have 1 hp? I think it was Adele over at the Lodge that said the bleed was incapable of overkill, so it’ll be interesting to see if having a dummy with some hp does make a difference.
Ok, Crocdile pet is officially Rogue killer number 1! hehe, i went out to durotar, will full pvp gear and some stam items. Pet got 27k hp, 2.5k AP 21k armor.
First try against some random rogue: Rogue dead in 10 secs flat
Second try: my pet dies after about 40 secs, and rogue ends at 3%
I’m telling ya. a BIG red crocodile with Bad Attitude and Thunderstomps, you do not wanna mess with him x)
Also, my gorilla totally pwned a disc/holy priest :D
7 sec cd on Pummel, locked out for 4 secs, pet self heals for 5k every 3.5 secs, plus my mend pet… Poor casters anyone?
Drotara what build were you using to get 3600? and was it with killshot every cooldown? What pet? I’m not getting numbers as high as that, more like 2900-3k max. But I did see a cat druid consistently pulling 3.7-4k : /
@Rhodospin Hmm, good point. The target dummy might have been down to 1 HP.
@Khala I was using a pretty standard 51/20 and I purposely didn’t use any Kill Shots. I waited till FotFF was stacked to 20, blew Bestial Wrath and Rapid Fire and went to town. Like I mentioned, it was an outlying occasion and most of the time it was hovering aorund 3k-3.1k or so.
@Sillie That makes me excited to get a crocodile. :D
My hunter finally copied onto the PTR and I went to the TB dummies (guessed correctly that they’d be a LOT less laggy than Org) and while I was overall not real impressed with my dps (recount showed crit rates a LOT lower than my paper doll), my piercing shots bleed was ticking for around 100 a tick when I was actually paying attention, but that was probably just off a steady crit.
I’ve been testing the reworked Survival tree, and while my DPS, and even my crit rate, are comparable to current live numbers, my mana efficiency is cut in half without guaranteed Immo-trap Lock and Load procs and 20% mana cost reduction from Glyph of Aimed Shot :\
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I am so tempted to copy over my character and get in there with a turtle!
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