I seem to have been making a lot of guild posts lately. :)
I feel like a pretty lucky person. My “life” on Illidan has proved to be quite fruitful. From the day Warbull, Moirainne, and I met Ciths with the idea of starting up a new guild, to the ez-mode PuG Karazhan runs that were so smooth people would purposely wait till I ran mine so they could get in. But one thing that’s always been missing is the stability of a well-established guild.
On Deathwing, Ravencrest Watch formed shortly after release and we rocked that guild title for a long time, racking up server firsts along the way. And while Found and WORK have been great for progression, that can be chalked up to a small core of truly exceptional players. But things have never really been “smooth” in the idea that when I was logging on to raid I knew I would find at least 24 other people ready to raid like you are.
Found had a ridiculously high attrition rate. WORK just doesn’t have consistent numbers. And it’s a rough spot for someone to be in who really enjoys raiding. Even in farmed content, raiding to me is a personal challenge to be better than I was the week before.
And to be fair, it’s not all guild problems. (US)Illidan has completely gone to crap in terms of performance. Nothing Blizzard does seems to fix it. Last night the server pretty much stopped working during Patchwerk. People got frustrated and left the raid so we had to call it early. And that’s really no fault of their own. Raiding in lag isn’t fun for anyone.
Is WORK dead? No. But we’ll see who shows up to raid tonight. I won’t like when I say part of me wants to transfer off the server. Not to get away from people but to get to a server where raiding is feasible due to server performance. But there’s one thing I am, and that is loyal to a guild.
So once again, we’ll see where WORK goes, similar to the problem we had with too few members. If it goes belly up for whatever reason, moving to a new home is creeping closer to the top of my list of options. Although I do foresee one problem. Not all guilds will be thrilled with someone posting about their inner-working on a blog. I never been one to obscure information. The names of guild members, leaving WWS reports un-anonymous. You’ll always get the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. :)
Time for me to get lunch. Thoughts, comments, bribes to move to your server. Post ‘em here! :)

I transfered about 2 months before LK release because I started playing this toon as a nub and had no idea of my servers physical location. This landed my on Dalaran one of the dirty 8, with RL friends who btw no longer play. Raid for me was marginal because I couldn’t get home from work in time to make raids. Frustrating for me and guilldies at that time we had overflow. I left this guild (like you very commited to my tag) on great terms with open invitation anytime I chose. I joined a late night guild that raided a little later than i wanted but hey made 100% attendance. This new guild decided to x-fer off Dalaran because they were frustrated gearing new recruits over and over again only to have them leave.
So off we go to Moonrunner Starts out good this is still pre LK pug a few spots recruiting started good then hit a wall with just about 4 spots left which were pug’d for 2 weeks. Then our GM and assitant GM stop loggin on there mains and don’t respond to tells. They eventually state that raiding has stopped until LK which is still 1.5 months away.
This left me with no real relationships to pug groups, new server, few contacts I try to stay focused on guild and LK. Note I am no quitter, I am the guy in a loosing BG that will continue to attack no matter what. Other officers and myself start to question how will LK be if we are not currently recruiting and no raiding. I and said officer reviewed our options leave to another server yet again or find guild here. I was looking at x-fer and he found a great guild. So we decide to go to this new guild together.
I have never been happier than with the new guild I am in. Adult run, no drama allowed and vent in quiet and prgression without stress, any drama is handled effectively. I finally felt like active dps in a progression guild, granted we are casual curently on 25 Maly left on our plate (had him to 21% last week during our first attempts at 25 version) will be dead this week I believe.
So after all this rambling what is my point. The hardest part for me was loosing all my contacts, easy invites to heroics and such. Making new relationship with new guildies for exchange of services, not really that hard but I don’t like owing people anything so this is prob my personal flaw. Think long and hard before you leave all the friends you have made. I don’t know all your history and how long you have been on Ill server. This was my experience with my x-fer and I have never been happier. Note we have instance lag here and 200 ques on raid nights, Lunar instance achivements don’t help either. Do your homework as we all know you will while think about a new home. I am glad I stayed on Moonrunner instead of second x-fer.
http://www.warcraftrealms.com/realmstats.php
Was big help in find the right server population, then I would see the forums as to how the server population was.
I wish you the best of luck in your decision it is always tough to make the hard ones.
Sorry for the wall of text did realize hwo much I rambled.
Illidan was my first server. I’m not sure exactly how many years ago I xferred off… but it was during that very first “free” move they offered. We headed to Stonemaul to try our luck there.
I know the realm pops are always in a state of flux… but I’m impressed that anyone is still managing to play at all on Illidan.
That being said: lf1m orc hunter for raiding guild – pst. =p
In all seriousness though… I know Blizz recently named some servers for free xfers (ours being one of them). Is Illidan on that list? Guild moves are slightly more feasible when costs are not involved.
Could always use a good hunter over on Uldum (US) ^_^.
Besides, I have cookies.
P.S.: And cake.
P.S.S: And pie.
could always come to nagrand :p
We’ll get more players. With the content so easy and such a joke it is hard for the average 25 man guild to maintain players. All guilds across the board are almost recruting. Torment, Shadow Warriors ect. Alot of guilds are losing good quality players to casual guilds becuase there is really no need for them. They can clear the same content in a guild called I mean seriously.
May this lighten up your day then, assuming you haven’t seen it.
From Tyrae’s blog:
/cast [modifier:alt] Serpent Sting
/castsequence Steady Shot,
/cast Kill Shot
/cast Explosive Shot
/stopmacro [target=pettarget,noexists]
/cast Kill Command
/cast Rabid
/cast Claw
I then made a slight adaptation to include Multi-Shot (the pet part is gone but can be put back in, it has 105 characters to spare as is):
/cast [modifier:alt] Serpent Sting
/castsequence Steady Shot, Steady Shot, Steady Shot, Steady Shot, Multi-Shot,
/cast Kill Shot
/cast Explosive Shot
@Shmi I saw that actually. I need to give it a shot although hand-weaving does have a certain delight to it. But if it maximizes DPS, I am all for it.
@Parallelism Our guild message begs to differ.
The people you chose to play with make the game. No matter how great the game you will hate it if the people suck. I play in a guild that raids on days I just cant make it on, so I pug alot of my raid content, however my friends list is very solid. The reson I stay in a guild I can hardly raid with is the people.
Good luck on your search, and check out Rexxar, never see a wait to get on and the server lag for raiding is almost none. Becides always need another orc hunter running around.
It’s pretty good, unfortunately it forces a Steady Shot before every Explosive, so when a Multi-Shot is cast before Explosive your going to have to wait another 1.5+ seconds.
I’m pretty sure it’s universally known that hand weaving will always produce the best DPS for SV, there’s clearly a difference even on a target dummy solo. But these macro’s aren’t to far off.
I’m having performance issues lately too though for me it is an ISP issue instead of a server issue… not sure if that’s good or bad >.>
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Were you having problems with the server in general or just Naxx. Last night my guild struggled with the lag until we got to Loatheb before calling it. Just couldn’t get the heals off in the 3 second window to keep people up. So we went over to Obsidian Sanctum and took down Sarth with a drake up with hardly any lag. It took twice as long as it should have cause about half the raid were either new to the fight or in new postions, but we got a dozen or so guildies a new achievement.
Whatsup aratar, my bro told me you had a site here so I came to check it out and the first post I read had RCW in it so i just had to reply.
RCW (WOTLK) had the same problems, getting enough people on and what not but that cleared up once we found a good raid schedule. We do like 6 hours a week, split up into 2 days, and clear all the 25 man content fine with that. 10 mans we don’t schedule but typically takes a group (we run 2) 2.5 – 3 hours to clear the 10 man stuff.
I just registered a new website for us (www.ravencrestwatch.org) so when that goes up, hopefully we’ll see you there! or stop by the server some time
-B
@Bubblez Well holy crap. Now there is someone I haven’t seen for a long time. Good to hear from ya. You better believe I will stop by. :)